Wall Street hits record high after US GDP is revised up – business live

Last modified: 04: 52 PM GMT+0

America’s economy grew faster than thought in July-September, despite the trade war with China

Earlier:

Finally, the UK stock market has ended the day higher.

The blue-chip FTSE 100 closed 26 points up at 7,429, 0.5% higher, at its best level in two months.

The smaller FTSE 250 ended the session at a 15-month peak.

Trade deal optimism, and today’s decent US data, are cheering traders.

But Ken Odeluga of City Index advises caution:

On one level, it’s possible to interpret markets, and indeed the President of the United States as enjoying the moment. Negotiators are in the “final throes of a very important deal” and talks appear to be “going well”. Donald Trump is “holding it up” to ensure it’s the best it can be. The White House isn’t breaking into a sweat. A similar mood is wafting through markets.

At some point, fairly soon, such sentiment may turn out to be ludicrous. After ‘phase one’ is done and dusted, and when longer-term, more comprehensive, complex and contentious aspects of the trading relationship must be addressed in more detail. ‘Phase-one’ hitches may look like a walk in the park by comparison.

Perhaps little wonder there may be a creeping tendency to stretch out talks on first principles, even till early 2020. If so, markets have demonstrated they have habituated to the uncertainty, with the help of an accommodative backdrop.

On that sober note, goodnight! GW

Markets at record highs, despite trade war pain

A quick recap.

Just in: US personal spending rose by 0.3% in October, in line with forecasts.

But pending home sales fell by -1.7%, much worse than the 0.2% rise expected. We learned yesterday that house prices were rising across US cities, but it appears that a shortage of properties is hurting.

Pending home sales fall 1.7% in October, as housing shortage worsens https://t.co/iRA4oyMXDu

— CNBC (@CNBC) November 27, 2019

Pharmaceutical firm Pfizer is the biggest rise on the Dow, up 1% in early trading.

Goldman Sachs (+0.6%), Apple (+0.5%) and Walmart (+0.44%) are also helping to push the index to its latest record high, with Nike and JP Morgan close behind.

But not every stock is up, of course.

Caterpillar is the biggest faller (-1.4%) following today’s profits warning from rival construction and agricultural vehicles maker Deere & Co (which has fallen 4%).

Boeing has also lost around 1%, following a report that a 777X’s fuselage “split dramatically” during a stress test in September.

US stocks hit fresh record high

Boom! Wall Street has hit a fresh record high in early trading in New York, helped by today’s growth report.

The Dow Jones industrial average has gained 46 points, or 0.16% to 28,112.58 points for the first time ever.

The S&P 500, which includes a much wider range of companies than the Dow, is also at record levels - up 5.55 points at 3,146.07.

This is just the latest in a series of record highs, as the US market has gained around 20% during 2019.

Greg Daco of Oxford Economics has dug into today’s US growth report:

US #GDP revised +0.2pt to 2.1% in Q3:

- #consumer spending at strong 2.9% but services only 1.7%
- #business invest plunged 2.7%: worst since Q4 '15
- #residential invest 5.1% rebound after 6 Qs decline
- drag from #trade 0.1ppt
- boost from inventories +0.2ppt
- gov spend +1.6% pic.twitter.com/nJTWpTo0v4

— Gregory Daco (@GregDaco) November 27, 2019

US corporate #profits +$4.6bn in Q3, following +$75.8bn in Q2, driven by domestic nonfinancial corporate profits & profits from abroad.

Profits are down 0.8% from last year while margins remain compressed at 9.7% of GDP – having declined nearly continuously for nearly 5 yrs pic.twitter.com/TCyNDe749v

— Gregory Daco (@GregDaco) November 27, 2019

The US has cemented its position as the fastest-growing member of the G7 in the last quarter, thanks to today’s GDP upward revision.

But that’s not terribly impressive, given the lacklustre growth in both the eurozone and Japan.

Here’s the latest GDP figures for July-September.

  • US: >+0.5% quarter-on-quarter [or a quarter of the annualised rate]
  • UK: +0.3% q/q
  • France: +0.3% q/q
  • Japan: +0.1% q/q
  • Germany: +0.1% q/q
  • Italy: +0.1% q/q
  • Canada: yet to report....

US growth revised up: What the experts say

Today’s GDP revisions suggest there’s less danger of a US recession.

But despite growth being revised up, economists and investors are still cautious about the economic picture.

Here’s some snap reaction:

Real #GDP growth slowed to 2.1% y/y in Q3: weakest in 3 yrs.

Economic slowdown from 3% growth was anticipated, but has come more rapidly.

Business #investment 1.3% y/y is weakest since '16. Still represents key risk to outlook, especially if accompanied by inventory correction pic.twitter.com/amd2bJO7pS

— Gregory Daco (@GregDaco) November 27, 2019

Q3 #GDP details show higher than estimated print partly due to inventory building / slower pace of investment decline. Consumer component un-revised at +2.9%. All in, few outright positives ^KO

— Ken Odeluga (@Ken_CityIndex) November 27, 2019

8:30AM ET U.S. data dump came in better than expected.

Q3 GDP revised up to 2.1% is impressive, as are those weekly jobless claims numbers. Solid rebound durable goods orders is especially encouraging.

U.S. economy continues its solid growth run. No recession to see here. pic.twitter.com/fHkmTdIK2y

— Jesse Cohen (@JesseCohenInv) November 27, 2019

The pace of US GDP growth in Q3 was revised upwards from +1.9% to +2.1%. The main change came from inventory build-up, so doesn't really alter the overall picture.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) November 27, 2019

The latest US jobless data is also stronger than expected.

Just 213,000 Americans signed on for unemployment benefit last week, down from 228,000 in the previous seven days.

In a further boost, US durable goods orders jumped by 0.6% in October.

That’s much better than the 0.5% contraction which economists expected, following a 1.4% decline in September.

Today’s US growth report is “a decent result under the circumstances, as the economy continues to outpace many of its peers”, says Craig Erlam, senior market analyst at OANDA Europe.

US growth revised up

Newsflash: America’s economy grew faster than previously though in the third quarter of this year.

New data show that GDP grew at an annualised rate of 2.1% in July-September -- the equivalent of just over 0.5% during the quarter.

That’s up from the 1.9% annualised rate estimated a month ago -- showing the US economy is a little stronger than expected.

The Commerce Department has revised up its estimate of inventory growth, and private investment in the last quarter. It also believes personal consumption was a little bit stronger than first thought.

Marketwatch has the details:

Business fixed investment was revised to show a 1% drop instead of 1.3%. The change in the value of inventories or unsold goods was raised to $79.8 billion from $69 billion.

Exports rose a bit faster at 0.9% and imports advanced 0.8% instead of 0.4% as initially reported.

Some key changes in GDP pic.twitter.com/QxlwZMMGPT

— ForexLive (@ForexLive) November 27, 2019

Updated

How general election could move the markets

Back in the UK, Capital Economics have issued an interesting research note on how next month’s election could move the markets, and affect the economy.

On an economic perspective, they argue that the best outcome for Brexit is a Labour-led government - which would negotiate a softer withdrawal agreement followed by a referendum which Remain could win.

The worst outcome, though, would be a Conservative minority government as this could lead to a no-deal crisis at the end of January 2020, or December 2020.

A Conservative majority - the most likely outcome at pixel time - is “somewhere in between”.

But how about asset prices? They have plenty of predictions, including:

  1. A decisive Conservative win could trigger a “relief rally” in sterling, from $1.29 now to around $1.35, and the stock market. However, such a results could be priced in already

  2. A narrow Conservative victory would probably lead to a fall back in gilt yields and a drop in the pound to around $1.20

  3. A Labour win “would play badly in financial markets”, as “anti-business” policies such as raising corporation tax would outweigh is Brexit stance. A Corbyn victory could push the pound down to $1.20, they reckon, and knock 10% off the stock market.

Despite Deere’s gloominess, Wall Street could hit a new all-time high when trading begins in 90 minutes.

US Opening Calls:#DOW 28158 +0.14%#SPX 3148 +0.27%#NASDAQ 8414 +0.33%#RUSSELL 1627 +0.32%#FANG 2886 +0.49%#IGOpeningCall

— IGSquawk (@IGSquawk) November 27, 2019

Looking ahead, Deere & Co is also bracing for equipment sales to fall significantly next year.

Here’s the details:

Agriculture & Turf. Deere’s worldwide sales of agriculture and turf equipment are forecast to decline 5 to 10 percent for fiscal-year 2020, including a negative currency-translation effect of 1 percent. Industry sales of agricultural equipment in the U.S. and Canada are forecast to be down about 5 percent, driven by lower demand for large equipment. Full-year industry sales in the EU28 member nations are forecast to be approximately flat as are South American industry sales of tractors and combines. Asian sales are forecast to be about the same as the prior year. Industry sales of turf and utility equipment in the U.S. and Canada are expected to be about flat.

Construction & Forestry. Deere’s worldwide sales of construction and forestry equipment are anticipated to be down 10 to 15 percent for 2020, with foreign-currency rates having an unfavorable translation effect of 1 percent. The outlook reflects slowing construction activity as well as the company’s efforts to manage dealer inventory levels. In forestry, global industry sales are expected to be in line with the previous year.

Updated

Deere has also reported a 9% drop in adjusted operating profits in the last year, partly due to lower earnings from equipment sales.

That also suggests the trade war, which cut sales of US soybeans to China, has deterred farmers from buying new tractors.

CEO John May says:

“John Deere’s performance reflected continued uncertainties in the agricultural sector.”

Profit warning from John Deere

Just in: The firm behind John Deere tractors and combine harvesters has issued a profit warning, and blamed the US-China trade war.

Deere & Co slashed its profit forecast for 2020, warning that farmers are more cautious about investing in new technology.

It blames the tariffs imposed on US farm exports by China, during the tit-for-tat dispute with the US, along with recent poor weather.

CEO John May told shareholders:

“Lingering trade tensions coupled with a year of difficult growing and harvesting conditions have caused many farmers to become cautious about making major investments in new equipment.

Deers now expects its net income in 2020 to reach $2.7bn to $3.1bn. Wall Street had expected $3.4bn.

Shares in Deere have slumped over 4% in pre-market trading.

Deere shares slide 4.3% premarket after company issues profit warning for fiscal 2020 https://t.co/JASb2VSHM6

— MarketsTicker (@MarketsTicker) November 27, 2019

Global stock markets are creeping close to a record high today.

The MSCI all-country world index is now 0.4% shy of its previous peak, thanks to the rally in Europe and (most of) the Asia-Pacific region today.

What happened to volatility?!

The financial markets feel unnaturally calm and still at present -- and that’s because volatility has slipped to unusually low levels.

This chart from Royal Bank of Canada shows that the volatility between significant ‘pairs’ of currencies, such as euro-US dollar, and the Australian and New Zealand dollars, have collapsed.

That shows that assets are increasingly moving in lockstep,

It’s not just currencies either. Shares, treasury bills and oil futures are all equally subdued. That reflects the lack of major news recently, and the long wait for a trade war breakthrough.

BORING:

Vol in every asset class is at least half a standard deviation below its one-year average

(stocks, Treasuries, high yield, oil, FX) pic.twitter.com/STZjM4B3WN

— Luke Kawa (@LJKawa) November 26, 2019

Poll: Markets likely to keep rising in 2020

The UK’s FTSE 100 index is up 10% so far this year, while the EU-wide Stoxx 600 has gained 21.5%.

And a new poll by Reuters shows that many investors expect the rally to run on in 2020, as fears of a global recession ease.

53 out of 102 analysts, brokers and strategists reckon that risks to the market are “to the upside” - meaning shares could do better than generally expected next year.

Back in August, two-thirds of those polled thought risks were tilted to the downside.

Recent signs of progress in the US-China trade talks have fuelled recent optimism, but investors want to see an actual breakthrough at some point!

Latest #Reuters #poll on #global #equity #markets - Further to run for global #stocks, but #trade salve needed: Reuters poll https://t.co/BDCcbOKXqS

— Howard Archer (@HowardArcherUK) November 27, 2019

FTSE 250 hits 15-month high

Shares in smaller UK companies are also pushing higher today.

The FSTE 250 index of medium-sized listed firms has jumped another 79 points, or 0.38%, to 20,944 -- its highest level since August 2018.

Updated

BAT shares fly despite e-cigarette slowdown

British American Tobacco is the top riser in London today, despite a slowdown in its e-cigarettes division.

BAT told shareholders today that it was benefitting from higher prices, and greater market share, in old-school ‘combustible’ cigarettes. This means revenue growth should hit the top end of its expectations - lifting BAT’s shares by 2.5%.

However.. revenues from “new category” such as e-cigarettes and heated tobacco will only reach the lower end of its goal of 30-50% growth.

The boom in vaping is now under pressure, with President Donald Trump now pushing for a minimum age of 21 for the purchase of e-cigarette products.

European stocks hit four-year high

Mining stocks are rallying this morning, despite the slump in Chinese factory profits.

Trade war optimism seems to be outweighing anxiety over China. And that’s pushed the Stoxx 600 index to a new four-year high.

Stocks are up in Paris, Frankfurt, Milan and Madrid, as well as London. Basic materials producers, consumer firms, banks and tech stocks are all having a good day.

Jasper Lawler of London Capital Group explains how hopes of a Phase One trade deal (and how often have we read that?!) are pushing equities higher.

Enduring optimism the US can reach an interim trade deal with China has helped investors overlook disappointing Chinese economic data. The steepest fall in Chinese industrial profits in eight months suggest China is still feeling the heat from the trade war on top of a more widespread growth slowdown. Inventors can stomach a slowdown in China if they see an endpoint via the phase one trade deal. If the deal doesn’t materialise and the data out of China continues to weaken, then things could go south quickly.

Wednesday’s top early risers are Asia-focused HSBC alongside mining shares, which all stand to benefit from China striking a trade deal with the US. UK domestic companies are marred in election uncertainty – that explains the relative under performance of UK vs European shares this year

Footsie hits two-month high

Britain’s FTSE 100 has hit a two-month high this morning, as election worries push the pound down.

The blue-chip index has gained 38 points, or 0.5%, to 7441, its highest point since late September.

Major multinationals are among the risers, as they benefit from a small drop in sterling today to $1.284. That makes their overseas earnings a little more valuable in pound terms.

Investors are also clinging to hopes of a trade war breakthrough.

China’s stock market has lost ground today, as the sharp drop in factory profits worried investors.

Nearly every sector fell, led by consumer cyclicals (-1.3%) and industrial companies (-1%).

Other Asia-Pacific markets rose, though, helped by Trump’s latest claim that a trade war deal was close.

  • Japan’s Nikkei: up 64 points or 0.3% at 23,437
  • China’s CSI 300: down 16 points or 0.4% at 3,875
  • Australia’s S&P/ASX 200: up 63 points or 0.9% at 6,850
  • South Korea’s KOSPI 200: up 1 point or 0.35% at 282.5

Updated

Trump: Trade deal now in 'final throes'

As is his wont, Donald Trump has been talking up the prospects of a trade deal with China.

He told reporters at the White House last night that a breakthrough was imminent... but also implied that Beijing needs to calm the situation in Hong Kong first.

Trump declared:

“We’re in the final throes of a very important deal, I guess you could say one of the most important deals in trade ever. It’s going very well but at the same time we want to see it go well in Hong Kong.”

Trump’s only talking about the Phase One deal, of course. That would probably see China commit to buying more US agricultural products in return for some tariffs being relaxed.

Iron ore and steel prices slide

Commodity prices have been hammered by the slide in Chinese factory profits.

Iron ore and steel prices have both fallen today, on fears of falling demand.

Reuters has the details:

Benchmark Dalian iron ore futures prices, for January 2020 delivery, dived as much as 2.6% to 639 yuan ($90.78) per tonne and closed at 642 yuan per tonne.

The most traded construction steel rebar on the Shanghai Futures Exchange, declined 1.2% to 3,596 yuan a tonne.

Hot-rolled coil, used in cars and home appliances, dipped 0.4% to 3,522 yuan per tonne.

Shanghai stainless steel futures, for February 2020 delivery, declined 1.6% to 14,220 yuan per tonne.

Other steelmaking ingredients also fell, with Dalian coking coal sliding 0.8% to 1,231 yuan per tonne and Dalian coke ticking down 0.4% to 1,865 yuan per tonne.

These charts from Bloomberg show clearly how Chinese factory earnings have deteriorated rapidly this year:

Introduction: Chinese factory profits plunge 9.9%

Good morning, and welcome to our rolling coverage of the world economy, the financial markets, the eurozone and business.

As the trade war between Beijing and Washington drags on, Chinese factories are being hit hard -- fuelling concerns that the world’s second-largest economy is losing momentum.

Profits at China’s industrial firms tumbled by almost 10% year-on-year in October, new government data show today. That’s the worst slump in eight months, suggesting the tariffs imposed on Chinese imports by the US are hurting.

This is the third monthly decline in factory profits in a row, and much worse than the 5.3% decline seen in September.

It appears to be the worst decline in a single month in at least eight years! However, there was a 14% slump in January-February (when the Lunar New Year distorts the data). Either way, it’s a bad sign.

So far this year, profits across China’s massive factory sector are down 2.9%, with manufacturing profits slumping by almost 5%. That will worry Beijing, and could force policymakers to consider new stimulus measures.

Ouch! #China's industrial #profits were down 9.9% YoY in October, the biggest decline since records began in 2011. pic.twitter.com/Eikn0C7E4C

— jeroen blokland (@jsblokland) November 27, 2019

Zhu Hong, a senior statistician at China’s National Bureau of Statistics said the decline in profits was mainly due to “a bigger decline in the output price of industrial products, slowing growth of production and sales and other factors.”

We already know that China’s growth hit a near-30 year low in the July-September quarter, and this implies that the fourth quarter of 2019 is tough too.

Economist George Magnus says China’s economy is clearly “still struggling”:

Chinese economy heading into Q4 evidently still struggling. Here Oct industrial profits down almost 10% on yr, worse since 2011. And debt rising still, do fin ratios getting worse. Irony that China just raised to 33.7% MSCI as > 200 new stocks admitted https://t.co/XsckAeWa6g

— George Magnus (@georgemagnus1) November 27, 2019

Nie Wen, economist at Shanghai-based Hwabao Trust, fears that Chinese industrial firms will keep struggling, saying (via Reuters):

“The big drop in October profits suggests the real economy is still facing plenty of difficulties.

Profit growth is expected to stay negative for a period of time in the future, likely prompting authorities to unveil more growth-boosting measures in a gradual and restrained way.”

Such weak data also puts more pressure on president Xi Jinping to agree a trade deal with America. That, though, would require big concessions on issues such as intellectual property protections and curbing state subsidies of Chinese firms.

The US stock market hit another record high last night, as investors cling to hopes that a deal will be reached soon.

We’ll find out later today if America’s economy is suffering any ill-effects from the trade dispute, when the latest personal income and home sales data is released, along with updated Q3 growth figures.

The agenda

  • 1.30pm GMT: Second reading of US third-quarter GDP. Expected to be unchanged, with annualise growth of 1.9%
  • 3pm GMT: US personal income and pending home sales for October

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