Joe Biden says ‘this is not a third Obama term’ in first sit-down interview

Although his list of cabinet nominees included many Obama-era alumni, Joe Biden said the challenges facing him were unique

In his first sit-down interview since the election, President-elect Joe Biden declared his presidency would not be “a third Obama term” and promised to represent the full spectrum of the country and the Democratic party.

Speaking with NBC News’ Lester Holt on Tuesday evening, Biden said the challenges facing him were unique and sought to shake off the shadow of the man who he served as vice-president.

The interview came as Biden announced a slew of cabinet nominees, which included many alumni of the Obama administration.

“What do you say to those who wonder if you’re trying to create a third Obama term?” asked Holt.

“This is not a third Obama term. We face a totally different world than we faced in the Obama-Biden administration,” Biden answered. “President Trump has changed the landscape.”

His administration aimed to represent the “spectrum of the American people as well as the spectrum of the Democratic party”, Biden added, agreeing that he would even consider appointing a Republican who voted for Trump.

“I want this country to be united,” Biden said.

He also said that he wouldn’t “use the justice department as my vehicle” to investigate Donald Trump and his allies, despite pressure from some Democrats to ensure the president’s financial dealings, and allegations that he sought foreign interference in the election, are further investigated. When Trump leaves office in January, he will lose the constitutional protection from prosecution afforded to a sitting president.

But Biden said he would rather his administration stay out of the fray. “There are a number of investigations that I’ve read about that are at a state level. There’s nothing at all I can or cannot do about that,” Biden said.

Biden expressed his wish to pursue a “progressive” agenda. Asked if he had consulted with the progressive senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders on cabinet appointments, the president-elect said “there’s nothing really off the table” when it comes to who he will tap to join his administration. But, he said, “taking someone out of the Senate, taking someone out of the House … is a really difficult decision that will have to be made”.

Although progressives have lauded Biden’s decision to nominate Janet Yellen for treasury secretary and appoint Ron Klain as chief of staff, prominent leftist voices including representatives Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez have expressed wariness that Biden might pick Bruce Reed, a former Biden chief of staff, to head the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). “We are extremely concerned by the reports that Reed is a frontrunner to head the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) under the Biden administration, given his history of antipathy towards economic security programs that working people rely on,” the congresswomen said in a petition they co-signed, along with other progressive leaders.

With more administration staff announcements pending, Biden told Holt the team was focused on coordinating a transition, noting that the Trump administration’s outreach “has been sincere”.

“They’re already working out my ability to get presidential daily briefs,” he told Holt. “We’re already working out meeting with the Covid team in the White House. And how to not only distribute, but get from a vaccine being distributed to a person being able to get vaccinated.”

On Wednesday, Biden will deliver a Thanksgiving address, from Wilmington, Delaware, and will “discuss the shared sacrifices Americans are making this holiday season and say that we can and will get through the current crisis together”, according to the transition team.

It will probably stand in stark contrast to Donald Trump’s turkey pardoning on Tuesday. Trump thanked healthcare workers and celebrated vaccine development advances, but did not offer condolences for the families of the quarter-million who have died of the coronavirus.

The president-elect has taken pains to paint himself and his administration as foils to Trump and Trump’s administration. On Tuesday, while the president tweeted, in all caps, “America First”, Biden outlined during a Wilmington press conference his vision for a country “ready to lead the world, not retreat from it”.

He told Holt that he was pleased to have spoken to “over 20 world leaders”, and said, “they are really excited”.

• This article was amended on 25 November 2020. An earlier version used the word “weariness” when wariness was meant.


Maanvi Singh

The GuardianTramp

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